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Do you know how hard it is to critique your own work? I mean really critique it, like the meanest judge at a competition. Well it is hard. I decided today that if I was going to do another Monday Morning Quarterbacking feature I'd better bite the bullet and get after it. To try to be as objective as possible I simply went to "Edit Posts" and pulled up my last 100 posts. Then I closed my eyes and scrolled my mouse up and down several times and clicked. The post that come up was one I did just a month ago today and the photo is the one you see above. Fortunately it only took me a couple seconds to see some problems with this photo.
Before I tear into it let me say that I like this photo - obviously I like it or I would not have posted it. This critiquing feature is not about saying how terrible something is, but about taking a second look - like Monday Morning Quarterbacking - and seeing how we could have made it better.
First thing I noticed was the frame. When I posted this photo I was just starting to do some of the coloring and/or shading of the background frame. I would go into the photo and find some color and then use it for the coloration of the background frame. Do you see that bit of lichen on the rock on the right side? That is what I used for the color for this frame. I must have been in a hurry or something, because as I look back now I can see that it did not add to this photo it detracted from it.
One of the things that made me post this photo was the texture of the sand under the clear water and also the reflections of the rocks, trees and sky in the water. However, I find that the brightness and texture of the sand in the bottom left corner is slightly distracting. It would have been very easy to add just a little darkening vignette to the two bottom corners which would have helped keep the eye in the photo not out toward the edges and corners.
Finally, and maybe the worst is this photo suffers in the composition department. Have you heard of the rule of thirds? (If not click here.) As you can see I jacked this one up pretty bad. Since about the only thing that would qualify as a center of interest is where the stream disappears into the rock at the end, it should not be right smack in the middle.
Let's face it. This photo has some very interesting elements that grabbed our attention, but with a little effort in the right places, and a little more time taken perhaps it could have been substantially improved.
The best way to make the compositional fixes would have been in the camera at the time of the shoot, but this cropped and Bridge-altered version may help you see it a little.
And there is still one more element to Monday Morning Quarterbacking - If you have a photo you would like seriously critiqued from one man's photographic/artistic viewpoint you may either put a link to it in your comment, email me a link or simply email me the photo. You'll find an email link just below or in my profile. Please tell me if you want it critiqued publicly or privately. You must promise not to be mad at me if I tell you something you didn't want to hear. You do not have to agree with me - photography and art are very subjective.
Don't be shy - leave a comment or email me. I look forward to hearing from you!F



12 comments:
I can see how the frame color makes a big difference.
What an interesting exercise...after almost 2.5 years of blogging, I think I need some Monday Morning Quarterbacking myself!
here is my entry Scott,
http://sadilim.blogspot.com/2010/07/sooc-7-full-moon.html
dave here
I love these photos, and keep in mind I'm the amateur of amateurs, but I like the composition of the first photo better than the second. It gives more perspective, the second looks like something important is missing. Either way, I know I couldn't have taken a phot like this. Someday soon I hope!
I can see what you mean Scott, I LOVE the second photo after you've altered it! I like how the eye is allowed to follow the water, there's no longer the distraction of the muddy or sandy corners and the frame enhances, not distracts. Awesome job of critiquing your own work, and I don't have time in my life to do much at all with my photos other than just enhance with brightness and/or contrast and some bonus nights I try to add borders. One day I might have the time to get to critiquing my own work or send you a photo to do so for me... just not today! Sometimes the only way to learn is to have someone else take an objective look and be totally honest, I look forward to this day Scott. Thank you for the offer and for sharing what you've done, you are a wealth of information!
Thanks for this one also. I have so much to learn about editing. I have looser written all over me when it come to editing indepth the way you too but am will to learn. Brilliant image.
I think it is substantially better. I like that you removed the white mountaintops and the sky. They didn't enhance the scene since there was so little of it and not too impressive. The left corner cropped out makes a big difference...now there is an uninterrupted focal point and you have it where it belongs in the upper third...I like it! I am wondering, though, if you tried a black frame to enhance the shadows in the scene. I am wondering if black would give the muted colors a little pizazz!
Hiya Scott,
Brave thing to do: self-critique. I find it quite disturbing to go back to pix I had treasured in my head over the years and then on later viewing find them lacking...I suppose liking is not the same as admiring.
I am so glad you said that about the frame as I felt it too.
I like the photo, when it first came up, I thought Ghost Canyon, it would be great on a Western Book cover called by that name. I don't think you have to always follow the rules about 1/3s because on this one if you did you wold have missed the ghostly shadows and the water and the canyon. I agree with yu about the background color, but for the composition, I love it
I prefer the golden frame and agree that cutting down the LH highlight is better - but I'm not sure about cropping the mountains. I like the perspective and context they give to the first shot. The second shot could be anywhere. And the water looks a lot more yellow in the second shot - it has almost become a mono-toned image. I prefer the more natural variety of colours in the first one. Photography is an art not a science and we all have different views - that's the glory of it.
By the way, feel free to critique any of my images. Sometimes I choose a picture because I really like it, and often I use one because it illustrates what I want to talk about, even if it isn't an A-grade shot. Either way I am always trying to improve my photography and really value people's comments.
I love your approach Scott, always developing your ideas.
hi Scott, thank you for the in depth review of my photo, having not attended a single workshop ( workshop is top of my wish list )
i find your comments very helpful. if you havent noticed, my photo is unedited and intentionally submitted as is so you can have a free hand in dissecting it
and i can maximize what i can learn from your comments in return.
on the subject of cropping, im not i big fan as i believed composition should be done on the spot while shooting, having said that, sometimes cropping is a must in making the images more enjoyable to view.
thanks again for your thoughts...
Shoot, I forgot to link my photo for critique!
Ok, I'm confused now, are we supposed to critique you too or are you just doing it on your own photo and any of us who link to you?
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